Post by rdk on Aug 11, 2008 16:20:42 GMT
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{JS} Minneyar
#1 | 11.08.08 16:35 Well,hereby I am using my right to wright a match protest,I haven't done this in quite some time actually. I'm asking of this match to be repeated or deleted or simply just to penalize them. Score of round 2 was directly influenced by the round1 score,so we couldn't really play like that,just not to get penalized for leaving early. Anyway,here is the demo,and look for yourself the way player with nickname "red" played. Have fun
Best regards,
Minneyar
^Mr^ TribaL
#2 | 11.08.08 17:02 Ok i watched the demo too see what your point what. And remind me, what is it again?
I saw you said "He's running" in team. Which i dont see how he can when he frags twice whilst on 4hp.
You were constantly chasing him pretty much fanning, what is he supposed to do apart from jump out the way? Hes not just gonna stand there and let you kill him is he. When i died, he went up the lift, becuase its more of a confined space, which means you are more likely to TK, we've talked about this when were practicing.
Im not being abusive or anything but i dont quite see what your point is.
ivar
#3 | 11.08.08 17:04 every1 who watches that demo will see that he was running for his live!
^Mr^ TribaL
#4 | 11.08.08 17:07 How is fragging twice and taking minn down to about 20 hp whilst on 4hp, in 1 minute odd, running?
ivar
#5 | 11.08.08 17:10 just watch the demo and dont be stupid
xdr
#6 | 11.08.08 17:11 Hi Iveyar,
hi 50TB of pr0n,
Please be patient while I review the uploaded material.
Best regards,
xdr, ESL Admin
{JS} Minneyar
#7 | 11.08.08 17:15 Errr,Tribal,don't make a big deal out of this,I have a right to protest,don't I?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#8 | 11.08.08 17:17 Ta da my demo don't need 2 watch minnies get a backseat view...
Anyway from what minnie says actually he isn't complaining about running, he is not saying he lost because I ran. He is saying he lost because he can't keep control of his emotions. Now I would understand if I had made him angry by flaming him or insulting him (or his team mate) That would be inappropriate behaviour, but as far as I see it he got angry because he was not winning, I was being passive especially when tribal died and towards the end of the game I admit this. Saying this however I don't think that because your losing you should get angry I've been beaten 20-6 playing a 2 v 2 vs Dark and MRL and we played 4 rounds I didn't get angry as that is unsportsman like.
I took it and i thought how I could improve and Minnieyar is basically saying he lost the game because he was angry and couldn't play the second round... well I point to the sportsmanship thing again and ask if it really my responsibillity to make sure my opponents can be bothered to try. I prefer a challenge and like to fight people who are better than me because when people don't try it less interesting. Saying that even against people who kick my ass I'm not just going to kill myself for no reason and this game isn't just about fragging and attacking all the time its also about TW. I'm pretty sad that this match has lead to this tbh.
Yours sincerely,
RdK.
^Mr^ TribaL
#9 | 11.08.08 17:18 Im not making a big deal of anything,
We have to defend ourselves against any protest, so we have no choice but to post a response.
{JS} Minneyar
#10 | 11.08.08 17:22 Why do you need to defend yourselves? I just posted a demo,admins decision wouldn't change based on your wall of text
^Mr^ TribaL
#11 | 11.08.08 17:23 They say,
"50TB you have 24 hours to respond otherwise..."
^Mr^ TribaL
#12 | 11.08.08 17:24 Lets just wait for xender, there no need at all to turn this into an arguement, over what was quite a gg.
{JS} Minneyar
#13 | 11.08.08 17:25 Yeah,but responding doesn't include an essay about emotions or some odd stuff red kaiser wrote.
{JS} Minneyar
#14 | 11.08.08 17:25 That's what I was trying to say @ Tribal
^Mr^ TribaL
#15 | 11.08.08 17:25 You're blaming that on me?
^Mr^ TribaL
#16 | 11.08.08 17:28 Im not trying to start an arguement or anything, its just in prevoius protests, i always get a fudge tonn of emails telling us to reply, so i replied this time to stop my email taking a battering
{JS} Minneyar
#17 | 11.08.08 17:29 YES I'M BLAMING IT ON YOU! (starts an argument)
^Mr^ TribaL
#18 | 11.08.08 17:30
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#19 | 11.08.08 17:32 Minneyar for one story there can be two views, the admins will make a decision based on the video (the right or the wrong one) however as you accuse us we are within our rights to rebuke your accusations, just as you have the right to protest. I've uploaded my demo because I have nothing to hide.
I have asked the oppinion of people I know who have watched the demo and say they can see where your coming from, what your talking about but that you have blown it out of all proportion. One has even gone far enough to say "If this match gets deleated it will be a bloody outrage!". This is their oppinion and they maybe wrong and may not be takeing esl rules into account (although they play ESL themselves) and they do all know me so bias is possible.
TBH whatever Xender comes out with I'll deal with it.
ivar
#20 | 11.08.08 17:33 all stfu and wait for xdr because im really getting annoyed off all the e-mails im getting about all the shit your talking about
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#21 | 11.08.08 17:35 ok i forgot 2 zip it last time i tried 2 upload sry XD
^Mr^ TribaL
#22 | 11.08.08 17:36 Dont get abusive, just go back to worrying about what that boys gonna do to you in your photo.
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#23 | 11.08.08 17:37 I get no e-mails and btw u just created more for yourself
^Mr^ TribaL
#24 | 11.08.08 17:40 Still not arguring, but this is what the email says
You have 48 hours to review the protest and to describe your point of view of the incident at:
www.esl.eu/eu/jkja/2on2saber/ladder/protest/1992510/
{JS} Minneyar
#25 | 11.08.08 17:51 Oh,I brought all my friends here,and they watched the demo together with my parents and with my both close and far relatives,and they all said "If this match doesn't get deleted we will personally track down the admin and behead him". But I'll deal with whatever Xender comes out with.
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#26 | 11.08.08 17:56 Hah Minneyar your not really setting a good example in your attitude for the |JAA|. Also my Family is Scottish (not all but enough) so your family would have no chance
{JS} Minneyar
#27 | 11.08.08 18:02 Is that a threat towards my family!?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#28 | 11.08.08 18:03 No is your previous post a threat towards an ESL admin?
I was saying your family would have no chance in Killing an admin who up held law and justice! For the good fo the Free people of the World! Because ofc my family would have a life debt to him
^Mr^ TribaL
#29 | 11.08.08 18:05 i heard xender has guns
ivar
#30 | 11.08.08 18:09 Dont get abusive, just go back to worrying about what that boys gonna do to you in your photo.
wtf is this about?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#31 | 11.08.08 18:12 I didn't know anyone was being abusive I'm just having a laugh at someone going nuts over everything for no reason.
^Mr^ TribaL
#32 | 11.08.08 18:12 I dunno im no fish expert
ivar
#33 | 11.08.08 18:13 I'm just having a laugh at someone going nuts over everything for no reason.
if thats how you think about it why are you two defending yourslef like your life is depending on it??
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#34 | 11.08.08 18:15 No I just watch to many legal programs... and this is such rubbbish that it justs has to be rebuked even with only slightly better rubbish XD
ivar
#35 | 11.08.08 18:17 sry but i have no fucking idea wtf u ment to say with that blabla story.. can you please talk some decent english so we can all understand?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#36 | 11.08.08 18:19 I'm sorry if you scotts don't understand proper English thats probabbly why Mr.Brown has messed up the country so well.
HAVE FUN ALL GG ROFL!
{JS} Minneyar
#1 | 11.08.08 16:35 Well,hereby I am using my right to wright a match protest,I haven't done this in quite some time actually. I'm asking of this match to be repeated or deleted or simply just to penalize them. Score of round 2 was directly influenced by the round1 score,so we couldn't really play like that,just not to get penalized for leaving early. Anyway,here is the demo,and look for yourself the way player with nickname "red" played. Have fun
Best regards,
Minneyar
^Mr^ TribaL
#2 | 11.08.08 17:02 Ok i watched the demo too see what your point what. And remind me, what is it again?
I saw you said "He's running" in team. Which i dont see how he can when he frags twice whilst on 4hp.
You were constantly chasing him pretty much fanning, what is he supposed to do apart from jump out the way? Hes not just gonna stand there and let you kill him is he. When i died, he went up the lift, becuase its more of a confined space, which means you are more likely to TK, we've talked about this when were practicing.
Im not being abusive or anything but i dont quite see what your point is.
ivar
#3 | 11.08.08 17:04 every1 who watches that demo will see that he was running for his live!
^Mr^ TribaL
#4 | 11.08.08 17:07 How is fragging twice and taking minn down to about 20 hp whilst on 4hp, in 1 minute odd, running?
ivar
#5 | 11.08.08 17:10 just watch the demo and dont be stupid
xdr
#6 | 11.08.08 17:11 Hi Iveyar,
hi 50TB of pr0n,
Please be patient while I review the uploaded material.
Best regards,
xdr, ESL Admin
{JS} Minneyar
#7 | 11.08.08 17:15 Errr,Tribal,don't make a big deal out of this,I have a right to protest,don't I?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#8 | 11.08.08 17:17 Ta da my demo don't need 2 watch minnies get a backseat view...
Anyway from what minnie says actually he isn't complaining about running, he is not saying he lost because I ran. He is saying he lost because he can't keep control of his emotions. Now I would understand if I had made him angry by flaming him or insulting him (or his team mate) That would be inappropriate behaviour, but as far as I see it he got angry because he was not winning, I was being passive especially when tribal died and towards the end of the game I admit this. Saying this however I don't think that because your losing you should get angry I've been beaten 20-6 playing a 2 v 2 vs Dark and MRL and we played 4 rounds I didn't get angry as that is unsportsman like.
I took it and i thought how I could improve and Minnieyar is basically saying he lost the game because he was angry and couldn't play the second round... well I point to the sportsmanship thing again and ask if it really my responsibillity to make sure my opponents can be bothered to try. I prefer a challenge and like to fight people who are better than me because when people don't try it less interesting. Saying that even against people who kick my ass I'm not just going to kill myself for no reason and this game isn't just about fragging and attacking all the time its also about TW. I'm pretty sad that this match has lead to this tbh.
Yours sincerely,
RdK.
^Mr^ TribaL
#9 | 11.08.08 17:18 Im not making a big deal of anything,
We have to defend ourselves against any protest, so we have no choice but to post a response.
{JS} Minneyar
#10 | 11.08.08 17:22 Why do you need to defend yourselves? I just posted a demo,admins decision wouldn't change based on your wall of text
^Mr^ TribaL
#11 | 11.08.08 17:23 They say,
"50TB you have 24 hours to respond otherwise..."
^Mr^ TribaL
#12 | 11.08.08 17:24 Lets just wait for xender, there no need at all to turn this into an arguement, over what was quite a gg.
{JS} Minneyar
#13 | 11.08.08 17:25 Yeah,but responding doesn't include an essay about emotions or some odd stuff red kaiser wrote.
{JS} Minneyar
#14 | 11.08.08 17:25 That's what I was trying to say @ Tribal
^Mr^ TribaL
#15 | 11.08.08 17:25 You're blaming that on me?
^Mr^ TribaL
#16 | 11.08.08 17:28 Im not trying to start an arguement or anything, its just in prevoius protests, i always get a fudge tonn of emails telling us to reply, so i replied this time to stop my email taking a battering
{JS} Minneyar
#17 | 11.08.08 17:29 YES I'M BLAMING IT ON YOU! (starts an argument)
^Mr^ TribaL
#18 | 11.08.08 17:30
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#19 | 11.08.08 17:32 Minneyar for one story there can be two views, the admins will make a decision based on the video (the right or the wrong one) however as you accuse us we are within our rights to rebuke your accusations, just as you have the right to protest. I've uploaded my demo because I have nothing to hide.
I have asked the oppinion of people I know who have watched the demo and say they can see where your coming from, what your talking about but that you have blown it out of all proportion. One has even gone far enough to say "If this match gets deleated it will be a bloody outrage!". This is their oppinion and they maybe wrong and may not be takeing esl rules into account (although they play ESL themselves) and they do all know me so bias is possible.
TBH whatever Xender comes out with I'll deal with it.
ivar
#20 | 11.08.08 17:33 all stfu and wait for xdr because im really getting annoyed off all the e-mails im getting about all the shit your talking about
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#21 | 11.08.08 17:35 ok i forgot 2 zip it last time i tried 2 upload sry XD
^Mr^ TribaL
#22 | 11.08.08 17:36 Dont get abusive, just go back to worrying about what that boys gonna do to you in your photo.
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#23 | 11.08.08 17:37 I get no e-mails and btw u just created more for yourself
^Mr^ TribaL
#24 | 11.08.08 17:40 Still not arguring, but this is what the email says
You have 48 hours to review the protest and to describe your point of view of the incident at:
www.esl.eu/eu/jkja/2on2saber/ladder/protest/1992510/
{JS} Minneyar
#25 | 11.08.08 17:51 Oh,I brought all my friends here,and they watched the demo together with my parents and with my both close and far relatives,and they all said "If this match doesn't get deleted we will personally track down the admin and behead him". But I'll deal with whatever Xender comes out with.
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#26 | 11.08.08 17:56 Hah Minneyar your not really setting a good example in your attitude for the |JAA|. Also my Family is Scottish (not all but enough) so your family would have no chance
{JS} Minneyar
#27 | 11.08.08 18:02 Is that a threat towards my family!?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#28 | 11.08.08 18:03 No is your previous post a threat towards an ESL admin?
I was saying your family would have no chance in Killing an admin who up held law and justice! For the good fo the Free people of the World! Because ofc my family would have a life debt to him
^Mr^ TribaL
#29 | 11.08.08 18:05 i heard xender has guns
ivar
#30 | 11.08.08 18:09 Dont get abusive, just go back to worrying about what that boys gonna do to you in your photo.
wtf is this about?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#31 | 11.08.08 18:12 I didn't know anyone was being abusive
I'm just having a laugh at someone going nuts over everything for no reason. ^Mr^ TribaL
#32 | 11.08.08 18:12 I dunno im no fish expert
ivar
#33 | 11.08.08 18:13 I'm just having a laugh at someone going nuts over everything for no reason.
if thats how you think about it why are you two defending yourslef like your life is depending on it??
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#34 | 11.08.08 18:15 No I just watch to many legal programs... and this is such rubbbish that it justs has to be rebuked even with only slightly better rubbish XD
ivar
#35 | 11.08.08 18:17 sry but i have no fucking idea wtf u ment to say with that blabla story.. can you please talk some decent english so we can all understand?
Pokemon Red Kaiser
#36 | 11.08.08 18:19 I'm sorry if you scotts don't understand proper English thats probabbly why Mr.Brown has messed up the country so well.
HAVE FUN ALL GG ROFL!
